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dnhman
Fireman

USA
1049 Posts

Posted - 10/29/2008 :  10:54:01 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mike Gald to see you posting again! I have to agree with the comments from other. This is a great way to share in the hobby, work with others and most importantly share tips, tricks and technicgues real time!
Can't get better then that.
Congrats to the team,,
Joe

Cheers!, Joe
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Frederic Testard
Engineer

France
16438 Posts

Posted - 10/29/2008 :  12:59:01 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mike, last year, you and your friends amazed me with your N scale layout project, this year you do it again with this incredible "social modelling" activity. You are really a great group of people. Thank you for sharing. Besides, the kit you've chosen is a very interesting one.
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James VanB
Crew Chief

Canada
500 Posts

Posted - 10/29/2008 :  2:56:25 PM  Show Profile  Visit James VanB's Homepage  Reply with Quote
In reading this thread I thought I would reply and show you all what a great teacher Mike is. This is my first wooden kit and my first experience painting them with different washes and stains. Mike did a great job explaining all the different techniques that can be used to paint our stuctures. Thanks for all your hard work in preparing a great presentation Mike. I was so inspired I went a little crazy on it Saturday evening and Sunday. [:-bouncy] I always find it hard to put something like that away after I get started. [:-glasses]
Here are the results so far.

James




James
Lyn, Ontario, Canada
http://lynvalleynorthwestern.blogspot.com/
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grlakeslogger
Crew Chief

USA
556 Posts

Posted - 10/29/2008 :  4:51:35 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mike, et al,
This looks like a great thread! I just clicked "Subscribe". So how do you and your group like the Banta kits? Good wood and cutting I hope ... Squareness and fit?

I am always interested in learning a new technique. And this seems like a great way to share a build! Will you be showing us photos of the "class's" finished models?

--Stu--
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Mike Hamer
Engineer

9343 Posts

Posted - 10/29/2008 :  6:39:26 PM  Show Profile  Visit Mike Hamer's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks again, everyone, for your comments and questions.

James, you are rolling along beautifully! Thanks for your kind words, but really...it was a breeze with such an attentive audience/class! I figured if nobody threw tomatoes, it'd be okay. I'm so glad to see you taking on your first craftsman kit!

Stu, this is my first time working with a Banta kit. I've seen some of their models built by a friend up here (Bill Scobie) who models Colorado in Sn3...and his work showcases the kits beautifully. The first thing Grant Knowles and I noticed in the instructions was a lack of a parts list with drawings for reference. I believe Grant is in the process of creating one for the participants of this build. I'll have to respond to the quality as the build unfolds. The wall parts and peel and stick sections look like fine quality so far.

Thanks Frederic and Joe. Yes, we are blessed in this area with many fine modellers and many fine people.

Hey Mike...I'm happy to be back after a couple of the busiest months in a long time! Well, there is one lady in the class and I would say the youngest modeller is perhaps in his early thirties with many of us "middle agers" making up the bulk (in numbers - not physical size) of the participants!

Al...I'll try to get you some images of the portable work areas as soon as I can.

John, I agree....from Alaska to New England I would imagine that the tried and true construction techniques that withstand the test of time, distance and location would be the ones chosen when constructing buildings to face the elements.

Bruce, I have learned so much through the pages of our fine forum and it is a great pleasure to share and give back a little.

Brad (chooch41), You'll have to make it out for one of the sessions in the future! [:-apple][:-apple]

All the best, Mike Hamer
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
http://craftsmanstructures.blogspot.com
http://bostonandmaine.blogspot.com
http://fridaynightgroup.blogspot.com

Edited by - Mike Hamer on 10/29/2008 6:43:59 PM
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Mike Hamer
Engineer

9343 Posts

Posted - 10/29/2008 :  6:52:24 PM  Show Profile  Visit Mike Hamer's Homepage  Reply with Quote


Hey John and Al, just after I posted my last message to this thread, Mike Rozeboom e-mailed me these two images of his portable workbench built by Grant Knowles. Mike tells me that he believes that it is made of oak. Mike added the red felt underneath.



Mike R. looks like a busy modeller with a lot on the go! Thanks, Mike, for e-mailing the photos to share! [:-apple][:-apple]

All the best, Mike Hamer
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
http://craftsmanstructures.blogspot.com
http://bostonandmaine.blogspot.com
http://fridaynightgroup.blogspot.com

Edited by - Mike Hamer on 10/30/2008 9:35:35 PM
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Peterpools
Engineer

USA
12335 Posts

Posted - 10/29/2008 :  7:05:18 PM  Show Profile  Visit Peterpools's Homepage  Reply with Quote
James
Great start. You couldn't have found a better 'teacher'.
Peter [:-kitty]

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Peterpools
Engineer

USA
12335 Posts

Posted - 10/29/2008 :  7:08:15 PM  Show Profile  Visit Peterpools's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Mike
Glad to see you posting again. Please let us know when your group plans on doing another project for the hospital and the kids, as I would like to donate a kit.
Peter [:-kitty]
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MikeC
Administrator

USA
21584 Posts

Posted - 10/29/2008 :  8:52:35 PM  Show Profile  Visit MikeC's Homepage  Reply with Quote
James.... looking good! Keep us updated as you make progress on the kit.



Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm a busy man. I have a railroad to run.


Visit the Central Missouri & Southern
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time2play
Engine Wiper

Canada
458 Posts

Posted - 10/30/2008 :  09:50:51 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mike's right about bringing all required items with you and then noticing an important piece or tool has been missed. However, I find this a perfect opportunity to create a new technique/method or missing piece. Some times it works out well having developed something new and some times it doesn't. If it doesn't work you at least know what not to do in the future...
I'm in with this group build as well and I'm enjoying the comraderie as well as gleaning information on techniques other people are using. For example, I tried Chuck Doan's method for peeled paint effect on a Texaco gas station I'm building at the same time as this bakery build. This was my first attempt and, with suggestions from Chris Lyon(LVN), my walls came out exactly the way I was hoping. For whatever reason I can't get a photo of this to post properly. I'm planning on doing a post on this build anyway so I'll iron out the problems in the meantime.


Bob
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Mike Hamer
Engineer

9343 Posts

Posted - 10/30/2008 :  3:53:29 PM  Show Profile  Visit Mike Hamer's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks. Peter. This past year, a model railroad club for children in Merrickville took on the hospital build and created a Lionel layout on a 4x8 board. It came out beautifully.
Hey Bob, I saw your wall section for the gas station and it looks so realistic. As Bob mentioned, the social aspect of a project like this is 'second to none'...lots of opportunities to ask others what they think about what you are doing! [:-thumbu][:-thumbu]

As for the schedule for clinics on the group build, the dates have gone (and will go) like this: (later actual dates TBD)

September 27th: Program Introduction, handing out of kits to everyone, studying the contents of the kit and the instructions.
October 25th: Clinic on wood and painting. A "how-to" on preparing the wood parts and then commencing with painting/staining the pieces with an introduction to "peel and stick" technology.
November 29th: Detail part preparation, preparing windows and doors, wall signage.
January (early): Wall and window assembly, create interior walls.
January 31st: Roof types, interior lighting.
February: Assemble roof, install lighting and additional details.
March: Scratchbuilding additional details (perhaps a small add-on), add finishing touches.
April 17-19: NFR Convention

I do believe that 'adding interior detailing' is also planned for one of the sessions. As Grant Knowles stated, "Some of the key objectives of this project are...to learn new construction techniques...to learn from each other...to build confidence to tackle more challenging builds. I'll be sure to take my camera to the late November meeting and snap images of many of the structures as they develop along the way! [:-apple][:-apple]

All the best, Mike Hamer
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
http://craftsmanstructures.blogspot.com
http://bostonandmaine.blogspot.com
http://fridaynightgroup.blogspot.com

Edited by - Mike Hamer on 10/30/2008 5:59:02 PM
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Tabooma County Rwy
Fireman

USA
4192 Posts

Posted - 10/30/2008 :  5:45:29 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the workstation photos, Mike!

Edited by - Tabooma County Rwy on 10/30/2008 5:46:06 PM
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Bbags
Administrator

USA
13050 Posts

Posted - 10/30/2008 :  7:41:38 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mike,
I sure hope that you do have a work session on detailing the interior for with those large windows the interior just cries out to be detailed.


John Bagley
Modeling the Alaska Railroad in HO in Wildwood Georgia.
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k27rgs
Fireman

Australia
4257 Posts

Posted - 10/30/2008 :  8:14:49 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Great to see so much "passing on knowledge" thru in-house clinics...

hope the following pics i took recently are of some use...

"M"



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Mike Hamer
Engineer

9343 Posts

Posted - 10/30/2008 :  9:00:40 PM  Show Profile  Visit Mike Hamer's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi John, For sure, some of us will be ordering interior details for 'general stores' and I'll post photos. You're right...those windows beg to show off things inside!

Mario, thank you so much for sending those recent pics! Wow, that back wall is a change! Your close-up detail shots are superb as well! Thanks so much for the sharing...I know the participants will appreciate looking at all the pics! [:-apple][:-apple]

All the best, Mike Hamer
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
http://craftsmanstructures.blogspot.com
http://bostonandmaine.blogspot.com
http://fridaynightgroup.blogspot.com
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