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Vagel Keller
Crew Chief

USA
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Posted - 10/21/2009 :  6:25:52 PM  Show Profile  Visit Vagel Keller's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the kind words, guys. We got the outdoor carpet mounted on the fascia around the museum terminal and yard today. It's really cheap, at $0.49 per sq. ft. The color is Paradise Green. I pre-cut the openings for the DCC UTP's before we started gluing on the carpet.



I bought a quart container of carpet glue, which looks like it will just about be enough for the 48 ft of fascia, most of it 8 to 8 1/4" high, on Phase I of the layout. The sales associate at Home Despot warned against spreading the glue on too thick with this carpet, because it's only 1/8" think and the glue can bleed through. Don brushed the glue on with a disposable 3" chip brush and I combed it with a toothed trowel (try saying that three time fast for the state trooper).



Getting the carpet to adhere when wrapping it around 90-degree corners and concave curves was a bit of a challenge, especially since we didn't have the 100 lb. roller called for in the glue's instructions. [:-grumpy] But the glue took hold pretty quickly, and with some judicious clamping and heavy handed smoothing everything laid down pretty easily.



At the end of the session, we agreed that the carpet idea is working out really well.



Don cut some scrap to fit the appendages in the fascia around the turntable and roundhouse panels, which I glued on after lunch at Ritters. I'll post a couple more shots when everything has set and the DCC UTP's are in place.

See ya next time,

Vagel
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Frederic Testard
Engineer

France
16448 Posts

Posted - 10/21/2009 :  6:46:26 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes, Vagel, the fascia is very nicely looking this way.


Frederic Testard
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George D
Moderator

USA
9909 Posts

Posted - 10/21/2009 :  7:30:22 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Nice idea for the fascia. Are you worried of spilling something on it when you are doing the scenery?

Green clamps, green socks and a green t-shirt – is Don making some sort of a fashion statement?

George
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AVRR-PA
Fireman

USA
4600 Posts

Posted - 10/21/2009 :  10:08:29 PM  Show Profile  Visit AVRR-PA's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by George D



Green clamps, green socks and a green t-shirt – is Don making some sort of a fashion statement?

George



To quote Auntie Mame, "The difference between man and beasts is the ability to accessorize."


Don
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Tim Kerkhoff
Fireman

USA
5869 Posts

Posted - 10/21/2009 :  10:42:47 PM  Show Profile  Send Tim Kerkhoff a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Neat idea for the fascia, plus it covers all the screw holes.[:-thumbu]
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elwoodblues
Fireman

Canada
4872 Posts

Posted - 10/21/2009 :  11:17:28 PM  Show Profile  Visit elwoodblues's Homepage  Send elwoodblues a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Getting the carpet to adhere when wrapping it around 90-degree corners and concave curves was a bit of a challenge, especially since we didn't have the 100 lb. roller called for in the glue's instructions. But the glue took hold pretty quickly, and with some judicious clamping and heavy handed smoothing everything laid down pretty easily.


I'd like to see you lift that 100# roller and use it sideways.

The carpet on the fascia looks great and it sure does give it a finished look.

Ron Newby
General Manager
Clearwater Valley Railway Co.
http://www.cvry.ca
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Vagel Keller
Crew Chief

USA
722 Posts

Posted - 10/22/2009 :  12:44:13 AM  Show Profile  Visit Vagel Keller's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by AVRR-PA To quote Auntie Mame, "The difference between man and beasts is the ability to accessorize."
MY favorite Auntie Mame quote is, "Life's a banquet, and most poor suckers are starving to death!" I've pointed out Don's "human clamp" gloves before in this forum. But the T-shirt is a bit over the top, don't you think?

Seriously, thanks for the kind words, guys. We're not too worried about spillage onto the carpet, since it's easily cleaned up with warm water, and frankly I've never had a problem with layout surface run-off before.

One last thing ... I really must reiterate that the credit for this idea goes to W. Allen McClelland, of the Virginian & Ohio, who is the first, to my knowledge, to come up with and employ the idea of outdoor carpet as fascia covering in the last, and sadly now defunct, version of his ground-breaking model railroad.

Vagel
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MarkF
Engineer

USA
9272 Posts

Posted - 10/22/2009 :  02:32:14 AM  Show Profile  Visit MarkF's Homepage  Reply with Quote
What an interesting idea Vagel! I had never heard of this idea before but I must say it looks really sharp! Hmmm, something to ponder for my layout.

Mark

See my homepage at http://home.comcast.net/~prrndiv/
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Harsco
Fireman

USA
1101 Posts

Posted - 10/22/2009 :  05:57:18 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I like the appearance....good job, guys.
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AVRR-PA
Fireman

USA
4600 Posts

Posted - 10/22/2009 :  07:37:29 AM  Show Profile  Visit AVRR-PA's Homepage  Reply with Quote
That lovely green t-shirt is the official shirt of the Lawrenceville Rotary Annual Bar Crawl - it allows us to find participants if they fall asleep in a corner of a poorly-lighted saloon. We have a lot of them left over which I would be happy to sell if anyone wants to contribute to buying dictionaries for middle school students in Lawrenceville.

I think I'll suggest that we make the Flourescent Green ensemble the official uniform for the Blacklog and Shade Gap Eastern crew when the layout is on the tour for the Jamboree in the spring.[:-bouncy]

I really must dig up the Auntie Mame books - I remember laughing so hard my sides ached when I read them.

One other advantage to the carpeted fascia that Vagel pointed out to me - it turns the whole surface into one-half of a Velcro setup. If you put the "other" half of the Velcro on the back of your throttles, you can stick them anywhere. You can also stick up the boxes for card card and waybill, pencil holders, etc. Not sure cup holders would be a good idea, but just about anything else can be stuck anywhere on the fascia.

Onward and upward!

Don

Edited by - AVRR-PA on 10/22/2009 07:42:14 AM
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AVRR-PA
Fireman

USA
4600 Posts

Posted - 10/22/2009 :  07:44:05 AM  Show Profile  Visit AVRR-PA's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by elwoodblues

quote:
Getting the carpet to adhere when wrapping it around 90-degree corners and concave curves was a bit of a challenge, especially since we didn't have the 100 lb. roller called for in the glue's instructions. But the glue took hold pretty quickly, and with some judicious clamping and heavy handed smoothing everything laid down pretty easily.


I'd like to see you lift that 100# roller and use it sideways.




Hey, we're from Pittsburgh - not a problem.[:-bigmouth]
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Vagel Keller
Crew Chief

USA
722 Posts

Posted - 10/22/2009 :  4:08:11 PM  Show Profile  Visit Vagel Keller's Homepage  Reply with Quote
OK, it's 24 hours later, and the glue instructions say it is now dry enough to walk on the carpet fascia. Here it is with the UTPs re-installed and the trim pieces glued to the panels.





Next week we'll do the fascia in the Ft. Loudon area, and if I can get up enough gumption to install the last remaining HOn3 turnout and Tortoise machine, we'll cut and install the hardboard sub-fascia at Kalbach (in the kitchen).

Vagel
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chooch41
Crew Chief

Canada
793 Posts

Posted - 10/22/2009 :  6:07:33 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
At first I didn't think that using carpeting for the fascia would look very good. But, I have definately changed my mind. It looks really good. Great job gentleman!!!!!

Brad[:-eyebrows][:-eyebrows]
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Vagel Keller
Crew Chief

USA
722 Posts

Posted - 10/22/2009 :  6:24:48 PM  Show Profile  Visit Vagel Keller's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks, Brad. I knew it would look good when I saw the pictures of it in the article on Allen's last version of the V&O. I particularly like this shade of green, because it's darned close to East Broad Top passenger car color (at least during the tourist era).

Vagel
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LVN
Fireman

Canada
5023 Posts

Posted - 10/22/2009 :  6:27:22 PM  Show Profile  Visit LVN's Homepage  Reply with Quote
This looks great. I also like the colour coord of: the shirt; the gloves; and, the clamps... to go with the green carpet. Well done.

Chris Lyon
http://www.lyonvalleynorthern.blogspot.com
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