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TRAINS1941
Fireman

USA
6123 Posts

Posted - 01/07/2012 :  11:53:26 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Frederic

Good to see you back at it. Some modeling there.

Jerry

Jerry

"And in the end, its not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years." A. Lincoln
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Tyson Rayles
Moderator

USA
11051 Posts

Posted - 01/07/2012 :  1:34:48 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Great looking tipple Frederic!

Mike
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Frederic Testard
Engineer

France
17636 Posts

Posted - 01/07/2012 :  7:16:48 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, many thanks for all your comments, my friends.

Mike, I'm glad you like the name. While it was chosen as a friendliness testimony to UKGuy, it doesn't hurt if it pleases other people.

For those interested, here are the steps used until now in the assembly of the tipple. These are the same hints as those posted in the "A Tale Of Two Mines- The Silverado & The Leaverite" topic.

0. Glueing and painting (and pastel weathering in rust tones) of a sheet of plastic onto the top of the inclined floor to simulate a metal protection against the fall of the ore.
1. Assembly of the whole cardboard core (this includes the 45 inclined floor and the flat floor of the room towards the top of the tipple - where a small narrow gauge tram will come, arriving from the other building).
2. Laying of double side tape on the inclined bottom, and glueing of planks on this bottom. They are 3 mm longer on each side, and some will be trimmed later where the vertical posts are. The picture should help understand what I mean.



(In fact, I performed step 3 after glueing the vertical posts, which was rather uneasy and lead me to think I should have done it in reverse order...)

3. Painting of these new planks.
4. Glueing of the vertical posts on the front of the tipple. There are six. The two on the sides are flush with the ends of the Canson planks and are not supported by the cardboard. This way, they will align with the posts on the sides and allow me to install the horizontal side beams. The four others are laid on the sides of the two gates.

All the posts had been cut at the same length (and checked for this...) so I simply had to align their top end with the top of the front to be sure the assembly would be square.

5. Glueing of the vertical posts on the sides. Their location was drawn with a pencil and they were glued, using a square to check the bottoms were aligned with those of the front posts.
6. Glueing of the last vertical posts, on the back side, using the same care for keeping everything at the right level.
7. Glueing of the horizontal side bemas (there are four on each side, the bottom one is longer as it is used as a support for a planked walkway for the workers), then of the front and back horizontal beams (three on the front, two on the back).
8. On the front bottom, glueing of the three planks mentionned above. Then glueing of the remaining bottom horizontal beams (which are easily located when the planks have been installed).
9. Glueing of the "vertical" planks that support the bottom of the inclined floor (only two have been done as yet, four more are required).

Et voil. A pleasant "meccano-like" assembly game.

Frederic Testard
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Coaltrain
Crew Chief

955 Posts

Posted - 01/31/2012 :  09:09:51 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Frederic Testard







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I like your tipple but can I make a suggestion, I think that you need more bracing under the sloped floor. From what I have seen there would have been a joist at every leg, so in the photo above you would have to add four more angled joist under the floor. Also, I think that normally there would be a horizontal timber under the sloping joist at the ends to support the ends of the joist.

http://rgs.railfan.net/images/rgs_img_040.jpg

I am sure there are many ways to build one of these, I was just building a wood bin for my layout and was searching for information on the framing of one of these and that is the way I found.
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Schoolmaster
Fireman

USA
1581 Posts

Posted - 01/31/2012 :  09:38:27 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Frederic, I finally read through this thread from the beginning and am amazed at the quality and quantity of your structures. I'm a 'mining' man myself and greatly appreciate the effort and detail.
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Frederic Testard
Engineer

France
17636 Posts

Posted - 01/31/2012 :  4:37:45 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the comments, Jeff and John.
Yes, Jeff, I know more support is required for the sloped floor. I've added more bracing since I did this picture, and will post pictures of the current look of the tipple. In fact, the work is almost done, I'm just waiting for some hardware (NBWs and chain) to complete the gates and their mechanism.

Frederic Testard
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Geezer
Engineer

USA
10226 Posts

Posted - 02/12/2012 :  10:40:56 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Still lurking Frederic...;-)
Looking for ward to the gate detail.
I have 4 gates I need to put in order.....


Bill
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LVN
Fireman

Canada
5211 Posts

Posted - 02/13/2012 :  12:23:01 AM  Show Profile  Visit LVN's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Frederic. I passed on the big hello to Bill. I posted a couple more videos of his ops session on my blog. You can get to it from my thread on his layout. The loader is really coming along nicely. Good to see you posting again.

Chris Lyon
http://www.lyonvalleynorthern.blogspot.com
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Frederic Testard
Engineer

France
17636 Posts

Posted - 02/13/2012 :  03:35:14 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks, Chris.
Bill, I have received the NBWs and chain I had ordered. Right now, I'm more into making the dining house for the challenge, but I think I'll be back soon on the tipple. And I'll try to update the pics of the current state of it, since some progress was made after the last photo I posted.

Frederic Testard
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Frederic Testard
Engineer

France
17636 Posts

Posted - 02/14/2012 :  5:06:50 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Meanwhile, a few pics showing the current project, a dining house inspired by the West Side, built after a model by Mike Lynch. It will be the place where the Allison miners will go to eat.

A concept 3D drawing :



A half-done wall.



The four walls complete and assembled.






Frederic Testard
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alpha_1
Engine Wiper

Canada
142 Posts

Posted - 02/14/2012 :  5:11:20 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi All. Outstanding as usual, Frederic. Great idea for a model and a great start once again.

Cheers!

Gord Schneider
President and Chief Engineer,
Kootenay Lakes Steam & Navigation Company
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kirk
Fireman

Sweden
4737 Posts

Posted - 02/14/2012 :  11:51:37 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Beautiful! The quality windows and doors add a high level of realism.

Troels Kirk
Nsum, Sweden
http://coastline.no13.se
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andykins
Fireman

United Kingdom
4081 Posts

Posted - 02/15/2012 :  04:35:37 AM  Show Profile  Visit andykins's Homepage  Reply with Quote
wow frederic that looks wonderful, the colouring looks great love the green
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dougcoffey1950
Crew Chief

Canada
986 Posts

Posted - 02/15/2012 :  08:21:43 AM  Show Profile  Visit dougcoffey1950's Homepage  Send dougcoffey1950 a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
beautiful work Frederic

http://www.dougcoffey.com/html/model_railroad.html
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Geezer
Engineer

USA
10226 Posts

Posted - 02/15/2012 :  08:47:54 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Frederic- Well done, as usual. I see that you have
captured the "real" way that the battens should look.
A broken or missing one, here and there. Those details
are what makes a model. Your colors and window/doors
are in order too! Well done!


Bill
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