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LVN
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Canada
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Posted - 10/28/2010 :  3:06:42 PM  Show Profile  Visit LVN's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Frederic. You waterfall looks awesome. In fact the whole scene is beautiful. Be careful though if you add more and more water to the scene it maybe end up being too much.

Chris Lyon
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Geezer
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USA
10292 Posts

Posted - 10/28/2010 :  3:26:01 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Um....I cant see the pictures....;-(


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kirk
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Sweden
4740 Posts

Posted - 10/28/2010 :  4:26:09 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A big, noisy applause!

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Näsum, Sweden
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BBLmber
Fireman

USA
4712 Posts

Posted - 10/28/2010 :  8:38:29 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Frederic, your waterfalls looks great, I think you are forgeting the 3-4 foot rule. I look at the pictures and am waiting for the water to move.

Mark

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Frederic Testard
Engineer

France
17658 Posts

Posted - 10/30/2010 :  04:24:10 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the comments, my friends.
Rick, thanks for the comment about the color. I always find amazing the result of this seemingly random paint work.
Bill, I hope you've finally been able to see the pictures.
Chris, you're right about the risk of overdoing it. But the waterfall is done as you see it.
Troels, you applause drowned the waterfall out...

Mark, you're right indeed about this rule. While I try to make models as detailed as I can that stand close scrutinization, such an item certainly requires another kind of look. Here is one more detail pic showing the foam evocation I got with aquarium filter cotton wool.



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LynnB
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Canada
1925 Posts

Posted - 10/30/2010 :  10:10:50 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Although the pictures look great I'm sure your feeling the same disappoitment Ifelt when I tried the WS water effects, took forever to clear and when it did it looked too smooth. I've yet to trythe clear silicone which I'm sure would give better results.
Nice work either way.

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Mike Hamer
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Posted - 10/30/2010 :  1:34:25 PM  Show Profile  Visit Mike Hamer's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Looks terrific, Frederic! You've mastered one of the most challenging aspects of model railroading...making a waterfall. I understand the challenges of making rushing water. It sure looks great from the distance from which you photographed it! [:-thumbu][:-thumbu]
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railman28
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USA
2378 Posts

Posted - 10/30/2010 :  3:54:42 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Frederic Testard

Thanks, Bob. I have been working again on the waterfall. It's still difficult to appreciate it since I simply think our human eye can't easily watch a waterfall that's not moving.



Yes, very true. I have the same problem with figures on layouts. Done well they look good in pictures but in person, I keep waiting for them to move.[:-bigeyes] I think too with waterfalls we also need to hear the roar in our ears. And then there is the spray. But, the visual aspects you have captured extremely well.

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Frederic Testard
Engineer

France
17658 Posts

Posted - 10/30/2010 :  7:58:43 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Lynn, I surely will limit my use of Water Effects to very limited places. It's really not very satisfactory for this kind of scene.
Thanks, Mike and Bob. I'm now convinced that it is very difficult to let your eyes believe they watch a real waterfall (especially when your ears don't hear any running water noise - but even then, you would miss all the movement, the big disorder, the foam). There are definitely places on our layouts that have to be photographed to become believable.

I've done a little more scenery. A few retaining walls, some strips of cardboard, plastered sheets and spackle. Casting rocks is not very far...









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Frederic Testard
Engineer

France
17658 Posts

Posted - 11/09/2010 :  5:51:23 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Some progress on the layout. I've been busy last week casting rocks for the big cliff to the right of the Alexandria Mining Company. And this afternoon, I played with the brushes to turn the white desert into some believable rocks. I've also colored the area below the small bridge located under the cliff.

The cliff.



The whole scene.

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There's still some work : scenery to add onto the cliff, trees on the top, a snow shed near the wooden retaining wall. Then, this remote area will be declared done and I'll be able to start working on the foreground.

Frederic Testard
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milocomarty
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Netherlands
5914 Posts

Posted - 11/09/2010 :  6:50:04 PM  Show Profile  Visit milocomarty's Homepage  Reply with Quote
excellent job. do like the colour of your rock, is it coloured and drybrushed or do you use several washes? Waterfall looks good to me in the pictures, always can add some sound..groundcovers very realistic too

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BBLmber
Fireman

USA
4712 Posts

Posted - 11/09/2010 :  10:15:42 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Excellant Work Frederic.[:-thumbu][:-thumbu]

Mark

W,L,&E
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kirk
Fireman

Sweden
4740 Posts

Posted - 11/10/2010 :  01:07:08 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Really, really beautiful! I like the grandiose scale of this... so much scenery, so little man made. That waterfall is a tourist attraction!

Troels Kirk
Näsum, Sweden
http://coastline.no13.se
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Tyson Rayles
Moderator

USA
11068 Posts

Posted - 11/10/2010 :  07:20:36 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
[:-thumbu]

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wesleybeks
Fireman

South Africa
2541 Posts

Posted - 11/10/2010 :  07:46:48 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Absolutely stunning work Mr Testard.

Could you maybe describe your rock painting technique?

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Wes
Modelling in sunny South Africa
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