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CieloVistaRy
Fireman
USA
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 Posted - 10/22/2010 : 07:12:50 AM
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Interesting technique Verne. Looking forward to seeing the final version.
Arthur |
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Cielo Vista Railway (on30) |
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Tommatthews
Fireman
7268 Posts |
Posted - 10/22/2010 : 09:45:33 AM
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Verne,
Very nice progress ... thanks for the details of your carving methods ... |
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Dustymalaymann
Engine Wiper
Malaysia
133 Posts |
Posted - 10/22/2010 : 10:57:51 AM
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| Hi Verne,I have been following your fantastic build for a few weeks & have finally had time to catch up from paqe 1. I am also building a layout with a Polystyrene sub base & wondered if you could answer a couple of questions. The risers, are they home built or comercial? Have you had any movement problems sticking the track directly to the polystyrene? One of the inclines appears to have a track bed on top of the polystyrene? Anyway thanks for a great & informative build which gets better all the time & is truly insperational. |
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BBLmber
Fireman
USA
4211 Posts |
Posted - 10/22/2010 : 11:39:04 AM
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Hey Verne, it is interesting way to do the rock work. Are you using the white foam like woodland scenics? We will be watching to see how the finished rock wall turns out.
Mark |
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MinerFortyNiner
Fireman
USA
1991 Posts |
Posted - 10/22/2010 : 7:34:03 PM
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Thank you for the comments, guys! I haven't carved styrofoam for scenery for 25 years, and I wasn't too confident how it would turn out. So far, it's looking OK, but it still needs some work.
Dustymalaymann, The styrofoam blocks are the polystyrene beadboard, glued to Woodlands Scenics risers. I used HO cork roadbed glued to the top of the risers for roadbed for the Micro-Engineering track. This has worked well, and I haven't had any problems with the material shifting or changing dimension over three years. My layout is in a climate-controlled spare bedroom in a dry environment (Arizona), so there's not much temperature or humidity change.
My scenery is lightweight because the layout is built on the shelf benchwork of a previous N scale layout (yeah, nobody's perfect!) ;o) Ideally, I would choose the old heavy duty plywood with homasote overlay for ultimate strength, but this has worked well for me for this layout...and saved some $$$. |
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Dustymalaymann
Engine Wiper
Malaysia
133 Posts |
Posted - 10/23/2010 : 04:09:42 AM
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Hi Verne,
Thanks for the info. My layout is constucted of 3 tables & 2 bridge peices of 5'x 2'. I have glued 1" thick white polystyrene to the top of the tables (the white is all I can find over here in Malaysia). I then have glued 2" to the first incline level. Weather is very hot & humid (34 deg. C & 80+ humidity but condo has aircon). By the way my name is Keith Miller. Thanks again for info & for the great photos and information on your outstanding layout construction. Keep it coming.
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quarryman
Fireman
USA
1071 Posts |
Posted - 10/23/2010 : 06:06:25 AM
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Verne-
White bead board [:-shake] Yikes.
The rock face is shaping up very nicely. Just wondering if there is enough space behind the upper track to continue the rock work above and behind the high line in a few places.
Looking good,
Mark Chase
Richmond VA |
Visit my Piedmont & East Blue Ridge Railroad
http://www.eastblueridge.com |
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Locoman
Fireman
USA
1534 Posts |
Posted - 10/23/2010 : 06:46:52 AM
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| Verne,the areas where I am using foam, I am doing the same as you and haven't had any problems. Although, I am not sure I would grind it off with a wire brush. BIG mess. But, I like the results you have achieved. Give me something to think about. Maybe do it outside. the residue would look like snow. Keep up the good work. |
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Curmudgeon Rock and Timber Co. Short Line
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=28246 |
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MinerFortyNiner
Fireman
USA
1991 Posts |
Posted - 10/23/2010 : 10:11:19 AM
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Keith, i guess you and I are using similar techniques in very different climates with success! Good luck with your layout, please share with us your progress.
Mark, I have found it difficult to find other types of foam in my area for some reason, and the beadboard can actually give textures that work well for some of the geology of the area I'm modeling. At least that's my story and I'm sticking with it for now! Even though I ran a shop vac while using the wire brush and drill, it looked like it was snowing in the desert. i have to vacuum the entire layout room now, but it was pretty dusty anyway.
i like your suggestion to continue the rockwork above the high line, I was thinking of doing that outside the curve, but I might extend it all the way over to the bridge.
Jim, thanks for your comment, keeping the mess outside would be wise if you can. I considered that, but decided the cleanup would be easier than trying to deal with creating a base for the rock face that would allow it to be installed as one unit on the layout...that would be a cool way to build the scenery though, much easier than reaching over the layout. |
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Dustymalaymann
Engine Wiper
Malaysia
133 Posts |
Posted - 10/23/2010 : 11:21:28 AM
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Mark, I appear to be in the same boat as Verne with availability of Polystyrene. Only the white beaded type used for packaging is available. Its as you say a bit messy but will have to put up with that.
Verne, soon as I can figure how to post photo's will show my progress.
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Coaltrain
Crew Chief
782 Posts |
Posted - 10/23/2010 : 6:10:30 PM
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Originally posted by MinerFortyNiner
Who makes the figures in this photo, they look great?
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MinerFortyNiner
Fireman
USA
1991 Posts |
Posted - 10/23/2010 : 9:41:22 PM
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| The figures are by Buffalo Landing, they are very well-made and were a pleasure to paint. I performed lobotomies on the left and center figures to give them more appropriate wide-brimmed hats for Arizona in the early 1900s. In searching over many pictures of the area in that period, it was near impossible to find a miner or laborer without a hat on to protect them from the sun. The figure on the right came with a stamped metal hardhat, and I liked it so I decided to leave it as is, thinking he's a laid-off miner working as a carbonero until he can get back on a shift at the mine. |
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MinerFortyNiner
Fireman
USA
1991 Posts |
Posted - 11/03/2010 : 4:02:29 PM
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Originally posted by quarryman
Verne-
White bead board [:-shake] Yikes.
The rock face is shaping up very nicely. Just wondering if there is enough space behind the upper track to continue the rock work above and behind the high line in a few places.
Looking good,
Mark Chase
Richmond VA
Yes! 
Mark, your suggestion was right on, and it's amazing how it already is suggesting the rugged environment the railroad is built through. I still have to finish carving, blend the styrofoam blocs with stucco patch filler, and then begin coloring them. Scenery time is very limited, but will post progress as I move forward.
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quarryman
Fireman
USA
1071 Posts |
Posted - 11/04/2010 : 08:16:31 AM
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Great job sculpting, Verne.
I think the new rock face goes a long way toward breaking up the "Great Wall of Sonora" look of the high line. A saddletanker with a cut of side dumps teetering along on that narrow shelf will look great.
Mark Chase
Richmond VA |
Visit my Piedmont & East Blue Ridge Railroad
http://www.eastblueridge.com |
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BBLmber
Fireman
USA
4211 Posts |
Posted - 11/04/2010 : 08:59:59 AM
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Hey Verne, the wall is looking Good, can't wait to see how you texrure and color.
Mark |
W,L,&E |
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Building the Estrella & Sonora Grande RR
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