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simon1966
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USA
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Posted - 07/19/2008 :  2:32:40 PM  Show Profile  Visit simon1966's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The boys and I were out hunting for reefers to include in this month photo theme and we caught a glimpse of this!



Now we know it is here we will have to be on the look out for it!
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simon1966
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USA
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Posted - 07/19/2008 :  10:00:19 PM  Show Profile  Visit simon1966's Homepage  Reply with Quote
We spotted it again this evening. The mine switcher was moving it through town on its way to the mine.



We can only assume that it has some perishable items for the mine?

Here it is getting pushed into the mine yard lead.



and then spotted by the mine storage shed.

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nhguy
Fireman

USA
3666 Posts

Posted - 07/20/2008 :  01:34:42 AM  Show Profile  Visit nhguy's Homepage  Send nhguy a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hunter48820

Thanks Pete, that is interesting. I also think I was pushing it calling it New England but I got the general area right!!

It's always sad to think that all these great railway haunts have become parking lots, freeways, townhouses and apartments! Wonderful progress!![:-boggled][:-irked]



Yep. Cedar Hill yard is no more. It was the largest classification yard on the NH. About the only thing left is the dining car service building that was leased by a trucking company at one time and the yard office. I don't know if the dining car building is even used now. CSX uses the office and there are a few storage tracks in use. Nothing like it used to be.

This is what it used to look like 50 years ago.




This is what is left. Looking down track 14 and the Yard office used by CSX today. Only a few yard tracks left.



This is a map of what is left and some industries. There a re a few yards attached to Cedar Hill. The map is too large for this forum.

http://bobbarbn.homestead.com/files/chy.JPG

Bill Shanaman
Superintendent, New Haven RR in the 1948 to 1952 era
PMRA President 2013-14, OpSIG Member
NCE User Since 1999
Sugar City, Colorado

Edited by - nhguy on 07/20/2008 02:03:05 AM
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Orionvp17
Fireman

USA
2808 Posts

Posted - 07/20/2008 :  09:12:15 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by nhguy


Yep. Cedar Hill yard is no more. It was the largest classification yard on the NH. About the only thing left is the dining car service building that was leased by a trucking company at one time and the yard office. I don't know if the dining car building is even used now. CSX uses the office and there are a few storage tracks in use. Nothing like it used to be.

This is what it used to look like 50 years ago.



And the pictures don't show the two (yep, Two!) full-circle roundhouses the NH had at Cedar Hill in the Glory Days.... [:-bigeyes]

Pete
in Michigan
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hunter48820
Fireman

6024 Posts

Posted - 07/21/2008 :  7:15:51 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Bill & Pete,
Very sad that it is all gone. I take it that, from the diagram of the yard you attached, the tracks to the left of the maintrack (track #14) in the photo are (or were then) tracks #1, #3 & #5?

Best, Andy Keeney

Look out for #1, but don't step in #2!

Edited by - hunter48820 on 07/21/2008 7:16:40 PM
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hunter48820
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Posted - 07/21/2008 :  7:19:08 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Pete, I see that they reference Conrail and Amtrak on the diagram. When was the yard razed?

Best, Andy Keeney

Look out for #1, but don't step in #2!
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Orionvp17
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USA
2808 Posts

Posted - 07/21/2008 :  7:48:55 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hunter48820

Pete, I see that they reference Conrail and Amtrak on the diagram. When was the yard razed?




"Razed" is a harsh, all-inclusive term. It was decimated in the sixties and seventies, but is still in use. Somewhat.

Remember that the New Haven is "Gone but not Forgotten!"

Try the New Haven Railroad Historical and Technical Association ( http:/www.nhrhta.org ) for more information, or you can "Google" up "Cedar Hill Yard" and pick and choose from the 467,000 hits it brings up!

Pete
in Michigan
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nhguy
Fireman

USA
3666 Posts

Posted - 07/25/2008 :  6:49:09 PM  Show Profile  Visit nhguy's Homepage  Send nhguy a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
The yard crew of John and Dave watch on the ground beside 3404 as RS1 #0665 gets ready to depart with NX21 south to Middletown. But there's a problem. After the engine was coupled up the the engine wouldn't move. Maintenance man Bobby Darren (not the singer) arrives to look at the engine.



Dave the engineer says to Bobby: "Bobby! Have you found the problem yet?" Bobby climbs on board 0665, scratches his chin, and tells Dave: "Not yet. But it ain't nothing on the ground I can see, 'sept the brakes won't release. Elmer's still looking at the other end." Bobby's assistant, Elmer Jones, is on the ground at the rear of the engine.


The idling engine is loud but Elmer has found the problem. "I thinks I found it Bobby." yells Elmer. Bobby comes up the walkway and Elmer tells him: "Ya hear that air leak? That's that after cooler pipe. Its loose at the lower joint and the air is leaking out." Bobby Pulls out his wrench and tightens the pipe.

"I think that's got 'er Elmer." says Bobby. Yesir, I think that was it." replies Elmer.

Bobby yells to the engineer:"Try it now!" Dave Corsair the engineer tries to release the brakes and it works now. "Thanks Bobby! That's got it!" yells Dave. "Ok! Your all set to go now." yells Bobby. "Hey Dave!" yells Bobby. "Get me one of those Ballentine Beers from the warehouse on you way back from Wethersfield." yells Bobby. "OK!" yells Dave, "You got it".

The train departs Hartford Yard southward with the following consist:













Caboose C650, a class NE6, assigned to NX21 brings up the rear.



A bout 15 minutes down the line Dave sets out the Nashville car at the Ballentine Warehouse. IT sure looks good next to that Rutland car.


Dave turns to Bob Beupreau the fireman and says: "I got it all arranged with the John the Ballentine warehouse manager." Bob says:" How's that?" Dave replies: "We'll pick up the Nashville on the way back. Johny says he will have a six pack ready and chilled for us." Bob replies: "Can't get much better than that! Iced cold beer and free to boot!" Dave says: "Yep. Sure will taste good after we tie up."

NX21 continues on to Middletown for the rest of the trip.


Bill Shanaman
Superintendent, New Haven RR in the 1948 to 1952 era
PMRA President 2013-14, OpSIG Member
NCE User Since 1999
Sugar City, Colorado

Edited by - nhguy on 07/26/2008 02:10:37 AM
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nhguy
Fireman

USA
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Posted - 07/26/2008 :  02:23:23 AM  Show Profile  Visit nhguy's Homepage  Send nhguy a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
The Virginian hopper in the train above was used in a weathering clinic tonight and this is how it looked before:


This is what it looks like after the weathering clinc:





The car was first sprayed with a light dusting of Floquil grimy black from a can then Bragdon weathering powders were used. I bet I spent 7 minutes on the car total. I've got to get some Bragdon powders for myself.


Bill Shanaman
Superintendent, New Haven RR in the 1948 to 1952 era
PMRA President 2013-14, OpSIG Member
NCE User Since 1999
Sugar City, Colorado

Edited by - nhguy on 07/26/2008 10:21:30 AM
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cnj999
Engine Wiper

458 Posts

Posted - 07/26/2008 :  11:54:12 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I really like your rendition of that weathered Virginian hopper, Bill. All too often I see guys apply heavy rusting and/or dirt to a car but leave the lettering bright, clear and unfaded - the biggest mistake, as far as I am concerned, that most make in weathering their models. If it's going to be heavily weather, the lettering's appearance should correspond.

If I might offer just one small suggestion - a possible further light dusting of the interior of the hopper in a color that reflects the typical load it carries (dark for coal dust, light for ballast, or other stone)? Typically, the interior of a hopper isn't clean and dust-free enough to show a really strong rust color.

John (CNJ999)
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hunter48820
Fireman

6024 Posts

Posted - 07/27/2008 :  12:13:52 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Bill for the weathering nudge. I really hope to get started and it looks like I'll be buying some Bragon's!! The weathering looks very nice on the car. Certainly well worth the time doing it!!

Best, Andy Keeney

Look out for #1, but don't step in #2!

Edited by - hunter48820 on 07/27/2008 12:14:38 AM
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nhguy
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USA
3666 Posts

Posted - 07/27/2008 :  4:21:18 PM  Show Profile  Visit nhguy's Homepage  Send nhguy a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cnj999

I really like your rendition of that weathered Virginian hopper, Bill. All too often I see guys apply heavy rusting and/or dirt to a car but leave the lettering bright, clear and unfaded - the biggest mistake, as far as I am concerned, that most make in weathering their models. If it's going to be heavily weather, the lettering's appearance should correspond.

If I might offer just one small suggestion - a possible further light dusting of the interior of the hopper in a color that reflects the typical load it carries (dark for coal dust, light for ballast, or other stone)? Typically, the interior of a hopper isn't clean and dust-free enough to show a really strong rust color.

John (CNJ999)



I will take your suggestion John. I didn't have time to finish the inside of the car as I had a few more different cars to do like a gon, boxcar, stock car and one of my new Intermountain/Des Plains Hobbies NE5 cabooses. I do have photos of those to.

I feel the outside weathering is just a tad over done but a light coat of Dullcoat will tone it down a bit.

The wheels are not done either. They should be dusty/oily black for cars with friction bearings. The rusty wheels are the base coat.

Bill Shanaman
Superintendent, New Haven RR in the 1948 to 1952 era
PMRA President 2013-14, OpSIG Member
NCE User Since 1999
Sugar City, Colorado

Edited by - nhguy on 07/27/2008 4:30:03 PM
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TomPM
Fireman

USA
4648 Posts

Posted - 07/27/2008 :  10:12:02 PM  Show Profile  Visit TomPM's Homepage  Send TomPM a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Great shots of the reefer and the train with the Nashville Road boxcar!

Awesome transformation on the hopper!

Tom
Jack of All Trades Master of None
Ridley Keystone & Mountain Railroad
My Rail Images Gallery
NARA Member #100
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TomPM
Fireman

USA
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Posted - 07/27/2008 :  10:12:51 PM  Show Profile  Visit TomPM's Homepage  Send TomPM a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
We went down the Farmers Co-op Grain Elevator and caught the B&O through train heading east (as the B&O calls traveling from Washington to New York).










Tom
Jack of All Trades Master of None
Ridley Keystone & Mountain Railroad
My Rail Images Gallery
NARA Member #100
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simon1966
Fireman

USA
2861 Posts

Posted - 07/27/2008 :  10:41:47 PM  Show Profile  Visit simon1966's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Nice shots Bill and Tom, I will try and snap off a couple more before the car heads out West to Colorado later this week.
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