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Harsco
Fireman
USA
1101 Posts |
 Posted - 11/29/2009 : 9:48:09 PM
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Another reason why sessions are worthwhile are the ideas offered; Joe pulled me aside at one point and provide a breakthrough idea of elevating the road and town of Lucknow. I've probably stared at that area for countless hours, trying to visualize how I wanted it too look. Being from southern New Jersey (elevation: 60 feet), I tend to be three dimensionally challenged; everything around her is as flat as a pool table. Joe suggested elevating Lucknow above the tracks, then described what it would look like. Bingo! To be fair to Mark, he had suggested it as well, so the idea had been simmering there; it just took Joe's description to push me over the edge. After giving the matter some thought, I dug out the old trim saw and Surform tool and started in:
Here's the area cleared of structures:
One layer of one inch Styrofoam down and a little uphill carving for the road:
A second layer being applied further back; the road will rise towards the center of town, then slope back to go under the bridge:
There's still a lot more carving and refining that needs to be done, but in a couple of hours the idea is really starting to take shape. Thanks, Joe and Mark!
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Edited by - Harsco on 11/29/2009 9:53:05 PM |
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Grubes
Engine Wiper
USA
353 Posts |
Posted - 11/29/2009 : 10:17:06 PM
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Rick,
Op session sounded like it went great. Your description painted a picture of true operations with purpose. Hopefully the HARSCO plant will remain profitable so we can hear of more sessions. |
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Steam Nut
Fireman
USA
1272 Posts |
Posted - 11/30/2009 : 12:12:00 AM
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| Everything ran smooth! You think it could have been the dispatching!!!!! I could have since I was doing it! LOL!!! Yes another session went well. |
Steam Lives! |
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dlwrailfan1
Crew Chief
USA
574 Posts |
Posted - 11/30/2009 : 01:01:52 AM
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Steam nut -- if you can dispatch Harrisburg Terminal step up to the Raccoon Valley panel next time. LOL
I really like the elevated Lucknow. No longer a need to build a long retaining wall to support that track on the Woodland Scenic risers. The change in the town elevation justifies the railroad grade.
Thanks for the photos
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Harsco
Fireman
USA
1101 Posts |
Posted - 11/30/2009 : 09:40:15 AM
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QUOTE: "Op session sounded like it went great. Your description painted a picture of true operations with purpose. Hopefully the HARSCO plant will remain profitable so we can hear of more sessions"
Well, the P&L statement was looking pretty good until P-30 rolled into town...then the red ink began to flow! PJ, who was running the train, later pointed out something that should have been obvious to me but wasn't: the lack of a track diagram and/or building signs to tell him where to place his cars, something that will be corrected by the next session. ANOTHER good reason to actively solicit input from the operators; as a teaching professional, I'm embarrassed to have this a fundemental thing like signs <blush>
QUOTE: "Everything ran smooth! You think it could have been the dispatching!!!!! I could have since I was doing it! LOL!!! Yes another session went well."
Sorry, Steam - I didn't give you the appropriate props you deserve; that's what happens when things go right - no one notices. LOL
QUOTE:"I really like the elevated Lucknow. No longer a need to build a long retaining wall to support that track on the Woodland Scenic risers. The change in the town elevation justifies the railroad grade."
Eric, I couldn't agree more, and feel especially chagrined to have not thought of it before. Being terrain challenged, I kept focusing on flatness...the juries still out whether I can actually pull it off or not....
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hunter48820
Fireman
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Posted - 11/30/2009 : 12:57:30 PM
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I really like that Rick. The levation will really add alot to that scene when done!!
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Best, Andy Keeney
Look out for #1, but don't step in #2! |
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MarkF
Engineer
USA
9270 Posts |
Posted - 11/30/2009 : 2:03:15 PM
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| That's a lot of carving, but I think the end result will be well worth it. Lucknow is going to look fantastic! |
Mark
See my homepage at http://home.comcast.net/~prrndiv/
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Dutchman
Administrator
USA
23228 Posts |
Posted - 12/01/2009 : 09:22:40 AM
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Rick,
I like the idea of the elevation. I look forward to seeing the area come together. |
Bruce
Modeling the railroads of the Jersey Highlands in HO and the logging railroads of Pennsylvania in HOn3 |
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Neil M
Fireman
Australia
2173 Posts |
Posted - 12/01/2009 : 10:35:33 AM
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| I like the idea of building the town on a slope. It ties nicely into the backdrop hills and i like the visual separation of having the main in a cutting below the houses. |
Built a waterfront HO layout in Ireland http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=22161 but now making a start in On30 in Australia |
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Harsco
Fireman
USA
1101 Posts |
Posted - 12/06/2009 : 9:10:38 PM
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After a weekend of pondering, cutting, carving, and cussing, I finally managed to get the rough contours of Lucknow finalized - for now.
Having ignored height before, I tried to make up for the shortcoming by overdoing it...here's the first go around of stacking one inch layers of foam; my intention was to then carve in the roadway going up the hill:
Four hours and a heck of a lot of foam dust later, I decided I was trying to do way too much height in too little a space and took Mark's suggestion of using standard old Foamcore to gradually raise the level up. Concurrent with this epiphany came the idea of stacking homes along this back road...here's Round Two with the Foamcore and preliminary building placement:
The brown building at the top of the hill is a placeholder for a future church; moving it here now gives me an opportunity to exercise a macabre signature touch and model a cemetery to the left of it...
Low level shot from further back:
And another from the other side, closer in to the new "street"
Using a hot glue gun to bond the Styrofoam sheets was beneficial, but not exactly permanent....white glue, if you can wait that long, seems to work best. Next, I'll dig out the Sculptamold and attempt to blend the levels together before covering everything in plaster-impregnated gauze.... |
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Carrie Creek
Crew Chief
USA
948 Posts |
Posted - 12/06/2009 : 9:25:25 PM
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Rick,
Here is what I use to glue foam down, It is Lockite's Power Grab for Foam board. It has some work time and doesn't smell.
You will have to put some weight on to help set it. |
Phil
POR (press on regardless) |
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MarkF
Engineer
USA
9270 Posts |
Posted - 12/07/2009 : 01:08:27 AM
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| It looks good Rick. I really like the variety of elevations! But I have to ask - Mrs. Harsco had wanted a farm back in the corner. What happened to that idea? |
Mark
See my homepage at http://home.comcast.net/~prrndiv/
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Brunton
Engine Wiper
USA
386 Posts |
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Harsco
Fireman
USA
1101 Posts |
Posted - 12/07/2009 : 06:15:26 AM
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Originally posted by MarkF
It looks good Rick. I really like the variety of elevations! But I have to ask - Mrs. Harsco had wanted a farm back in the corner. What happened to that idea?
It's not quite dead yet, Mark....I'm hoping to put a screen of trees behind the church, then elevating the terrain behind it. If I can find the right N scale building, I plan on placing the farmhouse and barn right next to the backdrop. Mrs. H likes the present arrangement... |
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Dutchman
Administrator
USA
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Posted - 12/07/2009 : 07:43:01 AM
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Rick,
Your pictures show that the elevations going back into the corner are going to be quite effective. |
Bruce
Modeling the railroads of the Jersey Highlands in HO and the logging railroads of Pennsylvania in HOn3 |
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Harrisburg Terminal Railroad (HTRR)
