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slimrails
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USA
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Posted - 11/08/2007 :  8:38:01 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was asked to post a photo or two of the CV track system when I received the rail and tie sampler. It came in today along with a couple of free samples of turnout tie strips as well. The tie strips are molded styrene connected on one side by a joining strip that allows it to be bent to almost any radius. You can see the spike and plate detail molded into the ties with the code 81/83 rail in place thanks to a couple of clamps. The rail is glued in place in this system with an occasional spike in key places for stability. What I like about this is that I can solder power leads onto the rails and then mount the rails onto the tie strips. The small molding dimples in the tie ends are a minus, but should blend in when painted and weathered. I'll building a diorama project where I will use the rail and tie sampler, test out the track laying process, and see how I like it. I'll post some more photos when the road bed comes in from Walthers and I get it all down. Stay tuned! [:-eyebrows]





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Tom Sullivan
Fireman

USA
2428 Posts

Posted - 11/08/2007 :  9:02:30 PM  Show Profile  Visit Tom Sullivan's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I used their tiestrip on my last HO railway...beautiful detail...easy to lay....and fast! You have to use the righ glue to keep the rail in place...(some sort of hide glue, I think)....by buddy used their switch ties and really loved them too....tom
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emccamey
Crew Chief

USA
909 Posts

Posted - 11/08/2007 :  9:36:41 PM  Show Profile  Visit emccamey's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The rail provided is the code 81 LaVancil rail, with a very nice profile and easily mated to ME code 83 rail with just a few swipes of a file. Don't worry about the centering nubs - they are very low and get hidden when ballast is applied.

The recommended glue for the CV track system is Barge Cement (a shoe repair glue). Barge is similar to Pliobond, but is chemically activated and bonded with MEK vs. Pliobond being a thermal bonding process.

I've used Barge-MEK extensively. You want to thin the Barge with MEK about 50-50 and then paint onto the bottom of the rail base - let dry.

Then set rail in place (use gages for exacting gage), some occasional spikes. (The molded ties are hollow channels - so spiking really is a pleasure to do).

Use a glass pipette or a very small brush and just wick in some raw MEK along the ties and rail. The Barge will reactivate and bond. MEK works well as a plastic glue anyway, so the bond to the ties is superior.

The thinned but well bonded barge does have a residual flexibility and pliability that allows the rails to move with expansion and contraction such that a broken fracture at the joint does not occur.

Excellent system. Using thinned Barge is also a very fine way to handlay on wooden ties as well. Stephen Hatch uses it with his fine Railway Engineering custom turnouts to hold the real wooden ties on the turnout skeletal assemblies.

Edited by - emccamey on 11/08/2007 9:40:30 PM
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alpha_1
Engine Wiper

Canada
140 Posts

Posted - 07/24/2012 :  4:00:15 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi All; I've just done some preliminary investigating into this system. From what I see and read, I like it. I find it to be reasonably cost effective too....big bonus for a senior on a limited income.

Question: What is MEK? Where can I get it? Rage Cement; where can I find that?

Cheers.

Gord Schneider
Port Credit, ON
President & Chief Engineer
Kootenay Lakes Steam & Navigation Co. Ltd.
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alpha_1
Engine Wiper

Canada
140 Posts

Posted - 07/24/2012 :  4:01:12 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sorry guys, I meant barge cement in my previous post.

Gord Schneider
Port Credit, ON
President & Chief Engineer
Kootenay Lakes Steam & Navigation Co. Ltd.
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eTraxx
Fireman

USA
1996 Posts

Posted - 07/24/2012 :  4:33:48 PM  Show Profile  Visit eTraxx's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by alpha_1

Hi All; I've just done some preliminary investigating into this system. From what I see and read, I like it. I find it to be reasonably cost effective too....big bonus for a senior on a limited income.

Question: What is MEK? Where can I get it? Rage Cement; where can I find that?

Cheers.


MEK is Methyl ethyl ketone. You can buy it here in South Carolina at Lowes. I used it for plastic cement (main ingredient in Testor's cement for example)
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alpha_1
Engine Wiper

Canada
140 Posts

Posted - 07/24/2012 :  4:42:10 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good stuff, thanks Edward.

Gord Schneider
Port Credit, ON
President & Chief Engineer
Kootenay Lakes Steam & Navigation Co. Ltd.
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mabloodhound
Fireman

USA
4670 Posts

Posted - 07/24/2012 :  6:26:55 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The hardware stores in the US also carry MEK. (ACE or True Value).
Barge Cement is available their also....Google Barge Cement and maybe you'll find a local store in Canada.
Google is your friend.

Dave Mason
D&G RR (Dunstead & Granford) in On30
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emccamey
Crew Chief

USA
909 Posts

Posted - 07/25/2012 :  12:01:37 AM  Show Profile  Visit emccamey's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Should be pointed out that the CVT running track now has bend over molded in spikes that allow construction with out the Barge glue. Still need to use glue for the turnout bases at present.

-ed-
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alpha_1
Engine Wiper

Canada
140 Posts

Posted - 07/25/2012 :  12:08:06 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Great stuff! This is getting better and better.

Gord Schneider
Port Credit, ON
President & Chief Engineer
Kootenay Lakes Steam & Navigation Co. Ltd.
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alpha_1
Engine Wiper

Canada
140 Posts

Posted - 07/25/2012 :  5:16:11 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm wondering if the Proto:87 cast frogs will work with these turnout strips. Has anybody tried them?

Gord Schneider
Port Credit, ON
President & Chief Engineer
Kootenay Lakes Steam & Navigation Co. Ltd.
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