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elwoodblues
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Canada
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 Posted - 03/24/2011 : 07:37:43 AM
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Les,
to date I haven't distressed the shingles. The reasoning behind that is that 2-3 year old shingles would still be in great shape except the the weathering of the shingles. I might use a wire brush after the fact to give them a little more texture.
For the record I never "paint" on weathering. I have always used washes or stains to do my weathering as I find you can control the outcome better, and I'm a firm believer in the adage that "you can always add, but you can never remove" It is a valid point though, I've seen to many models with painted on weathering and to me it never looks right.
Once the shingles arrive I will make a couple of "test" panels to see what color grey wash will do the trick. Would hate to ruin a good model with a lousy roof job. Going to have to go to the hobby shop and look at the vellejo paint. I haven't used them yet but want to give them a try.
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Ron Newby
General Manager
Clearwater Valley Railway Co.
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visman48
Fireman
USA
4503 Posts |
Posted - 03/24/2011 : 08:16:55 AM
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Ron,
I have several Just finished shingling roofs waiting to be really finished too. I will wash them with very diluted Floquil grime then begin the process of A/I staining. I use the brush to texture before coloring, during staining and at the end before drybrush and highlighting. My roofs are pretty well used up so that kind of effort is needed. I am looking forward to seeing your tests and results. I don't want all my roofs to look the same, it easy to fall back on same old techniques and previous solutions.
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elwoodblues
Fireman
Canada
4957 Posts |
Posted - 03/28/2011 : 12:22:41 AM
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While waiting for the shingle material to arrive I decided to shift gears a bit and do the sign for Adams Stave and Box Co. Seeing as the front of the building was clapboard I wanted to make a painted on side.
Here is how I went about it.
I happen to own a Silhouette SD cutter that is used by scrapbookers to cut out shapes and letters in card, paper and vinyl etc. I bought it to see how I could apply it to model railroading. So far I had only used it to cut out place names in vinyl to put on my fascia.
For the sign for Adams Stave and Box Co. I came up with a font I liked and ran it through the cutter. Here it is cut and trimmed to size.
In order to stick the vinyl to the surface it is to be applied to you use a carrier sheet. Here is the vinyl attached to the carrier sheet.
I trimmed the carrier sheet trimmed to size. In order to attached the vinyl to the building I rubbed the vinyl with a plastic "thing-a-ma-bobby" (I can't think of the proper word right now).
One the vinyl was pressed on to the wood the carrier sheet was carefully removed. Painters tale was added to the top and bottom of the lettering go give more room to apply the paint.
Brown craft paint was applied by drybrushing the lettering with a stencil brush. Once the paint was dried the tape and vinyl mask was removed and voila.........
A bonefide disaster [:-bigeyes][:-banghead][:-banghead][:-banghead]
So it was back to the drawing board. After a bout of crying I scrapped, sanded, scrapped again, sanded again and applied a couple of coats of paint that came close to the original color it was time to try again. (ok, I didn't cry over it.)
The problem with the vinyl was that it didn't stretch enough to tightly fit over the clapboards, so for the second, and hopefully successful attempt, I cut the letters on painters tape.
I trimmed the painters tape to size and tried to use the transfer sheet but wouldn't you know it the carrier sheer would not stick to the painters tape, so I applied the painters tape to the building and added the middle of the A's, B's and O's by eye. In order to get a good seal I used my fingernail to press the tape to the clapboards.
Using the same dry brushing technique I painted the brown over the letters.
Once the paint was dried I held my breath and peeled the mask off and voila.....
A much better result. A little touch up paint and light weathering the colours will blend together and the building will have a nice painted on sign.
Now that my shingles have arrived my next project will be finishing off the roof of the church.
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General Manager
Clearwater Valley Railway Co.
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Edited by - elwoodblues on 03/28/2011 12:24:18 AM |
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milocomarty
Fireman
Netherlands
4968 Posts |
Posted - 03/28/2011 : 04:40:37 AM
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| Thanks Ron for the tutorial, with a bit of work it looks good to me.. maybe you should try it with an airbrush...But on the otherhand I used to retouche with the original wall color when I was doin handpainted signs. The tip of an #11 blade comes in helpfull to.. |
Grtz Martin..
http://cardiganbaycoastalrailroad.wordpress.com/ |
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Tommatthews
Fireman
7348 Posts |
Posted - 03/28/2011 : 09:37:22 AM
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Ron,
Very nice recovery. Is that building the barrel factory? |
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Rick
Administrator
USA
17861 Posts |
Posted - 03/28/2011 : 09:53:27 AM
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Ron, nice job on the sign.
Maybe using a stencil brush and dabbing on the paint lightly would work better.
Or try using a make-up sponge to dab the paint on.
If the paint is applied lightly enough it could look a little faded too. |
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elwoodblues
Fireman
Canada
4957 Posts |
Posted - 03/28/2011 : 1:16:18 PM
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Thanks for the comments,
Martin, in hindsight airbrushing the sigh might have been easier, but I wasn't anticipating the failure rate. I'll be using a 000 brush to do the touch-ups.
Tom, it is my version of the Barrel Works except I turned mine into a two story building.
Rick, I guess I didn't explain myself clearly, I did use a stencil brush and dabbed the paint on, I just dabbed off most of the paint off the brush before I put it on the building. I tried a make-up sponge on a test piece but I had trouble getting the paint on at the clapboard edges, a flat surface would have been a lot easier to paint.
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Ron Newby
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Clearwater Valley Railway Co.
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LVN
Fireman
Canada
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Rick
Administrator
USA
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Posted - 03/28/2011 : 2:50:23 PM
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Originally posted by elwoodblues
Rick, I guess I didn't explain myself clearly, I did use a stencil brush and dabbed the paint on, I just dabbed off most of the paint off the brush before I put it on the building. I tried a make-up sponge on a test piece but I had trouble getting the paint on at the clapboard edges, a flat surface would have been a lot easier to paint.
Oops, my bad.
I went back and reread everything.
I remembered reading dry brushing but missed the part about using a stencil brush. [:-ashamed]
I'm going to blame getting up at 4:20 AM for work as my excuse. [:-sleep]  |
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NVNGRR
Engine Wiper
158 Posts |
Posted - 03/28/2011 : 3:55:59 PM
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| Ummm, I wonder if the Crikut http://www.cricut.com/shop/#0/1/0/1// will do the same thing? I'll have to talk to my daughter and have her try it for me. Or better yet borrow her machine.[:-bulb] |
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Frederic Testard
Engineer
France
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Posted - 03/28/2011 : 4:38:02 PM
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You've got a fine result on the sign, Ron. I thought this kind of stencil work required an airbrush, it's really interesting to see that you made it with a brush.
Using fine sandpaper and an X-acto blade should allow you to fade it a bit in case you want it.
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Hopeless
Fireman
USA
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Posted - 03/28/2011 : 7:23:28 PM
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Nice work on the sign. Glad you stuck with it and tried again.
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elwoodblues
Fireman
Canada
4957 Posts |
Posted - 03/29/2011 : 07:45:40 AM
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Thanks for the comments everyone,
Chris, Next time your over I'll show you how I used the cutter.
Kevin, my wife has one of those cricut machines and the problem with them that all the shapes and designs come on cassettes that plug into the machine. She hasn't found a way yet to import your own design, I haven't looked into it as I've been playing with the Silhouette SD cutter. I comes with a basic program that you cam make your own designs and cut them. What I need to figure out is how to import designs from other programs (Coreldraw, Autocad etc) into the cutter.
Frederic, When I decided to make the sign air brushing it never entered my mind, probably because of the amount of masking it would involve. When I weather the sign I'll be using the X-acto Knife and sandpaper to give it a faded look.
Roland, I thought I would post the failure as I believe we learn more from our failed attempts that we do of our successful ones.
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Clearwater Valley Railway Co.
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Geezer
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USA
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andykins
Fireman
United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/30/2011 : 04:10:18 AM
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| i have to repeat what Frederic said, i had always thought this was an airbrush job having only seen people do this with an airbrush, but your result looks just as good to me, glad you worked passed the mistake too. very nice! |
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