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CBryars2 Posted - 01/31/2012 : 1:38:54 PM
Started a thread on building the Rose-Walsh Semlter kit and just as I was starting plans changed and We began a new project to replace our current layout.

Wanted to share this idea and get input as this is pretty ambitious and stretching for us.

The Layout is based on the Colorado & Southern Clear Creek Branch running from Denver through Golden, on to Blackhawk and Silver Plume.

First challenge was space. Had a nice storage building but only 12 x 22 with no insulation or permanent power.

Second was a track plan. Began with a single deck that quickly grew to a full 3 decks. First I had a helix in the design but after seeing it takeup 16 sq ft of hidden track, decided instead to make a middle peninsula with what I'll call an open helix. This 2 levels raising the track from 29" to 53". This provided over 60' of mainline with a moderate 2-3% grade (Narrow Gauge). This presented a challenge and an opportunity. Since track circled on a 38" section I divided it into 1/2 providing shelves only 19" deep. Not much space. This worked out well as this section became the Clear Creek and associated track-age up the canyon.

Deck 1 Plan



Close up of Deck 1 middle peninsula (or the open helix)



For those not familiar with Clear Creek, it offers some excellent scenery between Golden and Forks Creek, including famous (by 1900 stds) landmarks like Mother Grundy and Hanging Rock. thus a liability ended up providing a real opportunity. This 60' (scale 1 mile) represents about 10-20% of the actual run and will become serious mountain terrain.

Clear Creek Sample picture (Complements of a friend who sent me these - Thanks Keevan)


I'll follow-up this posting with Deck 2 & 3 plans and some progress pictures. Want to see how this posts.
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CBryars2 Posted - 05/20/2013 : 11:26:22 AM
Sorry been way too long since posting.

Been slammed at work and life issues, did get a little done on C&S section house. Will post later.

On Layout working corner from Forks Creek to Black Hawk. It is a lot of plaster and stone work.


Removed corner picture frame to make it easier to access. Using cardboard web hot glued for support. Cut creek bed in front of plaster. Began adding rock castings.

The time consuming part is the rock castings. Hope ti fill in more this week.

Have car struts and brakes to fix so will not get a lot of time til next weekend and the Memorial day holiday.

Thanks Cameron
CBryars2 Posted - 05/16/2013 : 8:00:41 PM
Sorry for the delay been on vacation.

The little cube speaker is nice, good sound and plenty of volume. Have a new WOW decoder from TCS on order hope it will really make the little speaker shine.

Thanks for comments

Cameron
Twist67 Posted - 05/08/2013 : 09:00:54 AM
Hi,
nice sound for those speaker.....very cool....

Cheers,Chris
masonamerican Posted - 05/06/2013 : 4:12:25 PM
Quite a lot of sound from that small speaker!

And that is one good looking loco!

Håkan
CBryars2 Posted - 05/02/2013 : 7:05:53 PM
Video of decoder and sugar cube speaker bench test.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFPvaJ7ngIo

Thanks Cameron
CBryars2 Posted - 05/02/2013 : 2:25:30 PM
DCC decoder and speaker test.

Picked up 2 sugar cube speakers from sbs4dcc.com and a MRC light steam decoder to play with.



Plan wiring up outside loco on test track with decoder Pro and get some initial sound tests.

New area of fun.

Thanks Rabbi
CBryars2 Posted - 05/02/2013 : 2:22:04 PM
New arrival!

Picked up a nice #71 C&S 2-8-0 from a great guy on D&SP forum.





Really sweet loco. Plan to convert motor and make DCC.

Thanks Cameron
CBryars2 Posted - 04/26/2013 : 5:03:04 PM
Sorry for the delay in posting, got a new boss and he is keeping me running.

Some layout progress on Forks Creek


Can't believe the amount of castings this is taking.

Some more work on the Section house


Printed plans and glues to matt board. Cut out window openings first and test fit. Then add wood.


Here is a shot of wood added and one window cut out.


Here battens are added and window fit.

I like this way of building, can line wood up precisely and no measuring of windows. Side benefit, wood rarely pulls up compared to measuring out and cutting.

That's all for this week. Hope to get some modeling time Sunday. Did acquire Yehuda's Heating from FSM. Will go with rest of structures in West Denver. Also have a 2-8-0 #71 C&S coming in Saturday. Looking forward to it. Will need remotor and DCC added but needed more 2-8-0 pulling power.

Thanks, comments and advice always welcome.

Cameron

CBryars2 Posted - 04/18/2013 : 4:39:51 PM
Thanks the Kingpost is nice looking. Maybe flat on both sides with Kingpost in middle.

Let me do some more research.

Thanks Cameron
Carrie Creek Posted - 04/18/2013 : 3:40:55 PM
Cameron, When i was looking for king post bridges for ideas for mine I just Googled King post bridges and found lots of sites for them although most were concerning covered bridges that used the KP.
A couple of them with a double bent in the middle meet would look great there.
There have been a number of them built here on this forum and I think that Don (AVRR) built one here.
CBryars2 Posted - 04/15/2013 : 1:03:07 PM
Jbvb

Wood was my thought also. Any idea on plans or pictures to go on?

Thinking maybe like a trestle with wood plank for lanes would look good. Weather it to make it look 10-20 years old and low traffic. Have maybe a light delivery truck and wagon crossing for visual interest.

Thanks Cameron
jbvb Posted - 04/15/2013 : 11:54:13 AM
Bridge construction depends on the build date and the span. If the bridge is post-1910 and the road important, it might be concrete-encased steel beams (like Rix). In that case, you'd get one ~50 foot span from your cardboard pier to the wall. But it would probably also be wider, at least 25 scale feet. It would work better for your purposes if it was wood with a trestle bent on either side of the narrow gauge track - a wood kingpost truss will span maybe 25 feet with automobile/wagon loads.
CBryars2 Posted - 04/15/2013 : 09:24:00 AM
Monday Update

Spent time on mountains around Forks Creek. Built cardboard Web and put in plaster cloth. Still a ways to go one section is hard to get to.

More work in West Denver. Ordered material for stone retaining wall where track descends behind yard. Worked more on making trolley disappear in Denver.

Idea I'm needing advice on is using the Fire House (decreased in width) some trees and an overpass to make a space where trolley cannot be seen. Also have a billboard if needed.

Here is a mock-up with 2 shots:

Pardon the crudeness of the mock-up trying to see fit and angles. The cardboard strips are the proposed overpass.


A little closer and another angle. Trolley is back there but difficult to see. Flock on trees, some clutter and I think it will disappear.

Now here is where I need advice: What type of bridge? Wood, metal or concrete? Any photos or plans you could point me to? Time-frame just before US enters WW1 so 1917-18.

Also more general question? Is the bridge & Fire House the right approach, are there better options?

Thanks for all your help Cameron.

CBryars2 Posted - 04/14/2013 : 12:40:40 AM
JVBV,Frederick

Thanks fo rthe info. On the hinge, you were right inside so not shown. However all the good info will be great for the future.

Thanks Cameron
jbvb Posted - 04/13/2013 : 07:10:23 AM
.005 styrene, shim brass or paper would be about the right thickness for hinges on anything smaller than an enginehouse door, and for that I'd use .010.

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