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| bkempins |
Posted - 11/20/2009 : 11:39:50 PM I received a couple messages from folks asking me to participate in this forum. I have been a member for quite a while but haven't posted much as I tend to post my regular progress on my blog. So if you are curious about the progress on my O scale layout depiciting the American Civil War era check out my blog at http://usmrr.blogspot.com
Here are some shots from my blog showing some of the scenes that are further along. It's still very much a work in progress.

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| milocomarty |
Posted - 08/30/2012 : 04:00:10 AM Yes it does, thanks.. |
| bkempins |
Posted - 08/29/2012 : 3:26:24 PM I am limiting my trees to about 75 feet (18 inches in scale) max. While the Southern Yellow Pines can get taller, 18 inches is about as tall as I can manage with my valance.
Does that answer your question?
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| mabloodhound |
Posted - 08/29/2012 : 2:21:54 PM Martin, I'm sure Bernie will have some input also, but a height of 20 meters (65') should be OK. During the war, trees were constantly being cut for use as RR ties, encampment buildings and firewood. They probably didn't get to the average height we see today of 80'-110'. This would be particularly true near the RR lines.
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| milocomarty |
Posted - 08/29/2012 : 12:30:30 PM Still have a question on thes trees. Checked out the shortleave and the loblolly, just wondering if the have to be full grown (that would be a 2' scale tree) or a younger one..Don't have a clou wich average size they grow in the state you model.. |
| milocomarty |
Posted - 08/23/2012 : 8:14:57 PM Thnx Dave for all the additional pinus info...gues Bernie is goin for the short leave ? or the pinus echinata |
| mabloodhound |
Posted - 08/23/2012 : 10:00:11 AM Martin, as I'm sure you found, there are 4 varieties of SYP (southern yellow pine). Loblolly, Longleaf, Shortleaf, and Slash pines, each having different leaf (needle) lengths. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Yellow_Pine The short leaf variety is the most common one in Virginia. The others are mostly from N.Carolina and South. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinus_echinata The needles on the shortleaf are from 2 1/2" to 4" long. That is not to say that the other species may have been around during the war, however most of the forests had been cleared for farming by the middle of 1800's and the dominate species today most likely was determined by that time. Bernie may have additional info based on his extensive research.
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| bkempins |
Posted - 08/23/2012 : 09:59:33 AM Yes, they can get that big. But in a thick forest, they tend to be smaller. Only the Long Leaf Pine has needles that long. The Loblolly needles are about 8 to 12 inches.
I was going to try a tree where I put dots of glue at the end of the braches. Then hit it with the grass zapper. But I haven't had time to try it yet.
One thing to remember about southern pines is that the branches grow in whorls. It's kind of hard to explain, but if you google "pine whorl" you will see what I mean. Basically the branches all grow from the same spot each year.
They also self prune the lower branches, so they have the stick and crown look. |
| milocomarty |
Posted - 08/23/2012 : 08:04:43 AM Bernard, have a question about these trees. Whats the general hight of them ?? Found on the net that the grow at appr. 116 ft. Have almost 1ft needles.. and the trunk has a diameter from appr. 2+ ft |
| milocomarty |
Posted - 08/21/2012 : 3:26:14 PM quote: Originally posted by bkempins
quote: Originally posted by milocomarty
Would love to try these...
What technique would you try?
Nor shure yet, but the grassmaster will be involved. Maybe 2mm fibers instead of the one. Looks like the tree has quit large needles..First is a search for more reference material on the southern yellow pine. I like the pictures you showed |
| bkempins |
Posted - 08/21/2012 : 12:43:55 PM This shot shows the bare deciduous forest above Weilepp's Cut.
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| bkempins |
Posted - 08/21/2012 : 12:42:03 PM quote: Originally posted by milocomarty
Would love to try these...
What technique would you try?
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| milocomarty |
Posted - 08/21/2012 : 02:33:56 AM Would love to try these... |
| bkempins |
Posted - 08/20/2012 : 11:49:24 PM Martin has made a nice conifer. It looks like a spruce or fir.
The southern yellow pine has a different needle structure.. There are clusters at the ends of the limbs. They also are quite sparse, especially when in a forest. 
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| masonamerican |
Posted - 08/20/2012 : 10:50:38 AM I saw the posting on your blog Sitting on Pines and Needles. Perhaps you have already seen it but Martin in the On30 line group is experimenting with a Noch Grassmaster and 1mm grassfibers to make pine needles. http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=35880&whichpage=33
I hope it can be of interest.
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| bkempins |
Posted - 08/18/2012 : 08:48:32 AM it is not super elevated. |