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MarkF Posted - 11/02/2007 : 12:47:22 AM
Now that I am officially between layouts, I have the time to devote to some projects that I’ve wanted to do for quite a while. I’ve always had a passion for kitbashing locomotives, but with the selection of highly detailed engines, and such a variety on the market today, little opportunity exists for such an endeavor. That is, until now!

Here in south Jersey, we have a collection of ‘short lines’ that provide a unique assortment of motive power to model. Fellow forum member Rich Wojcik’s layout is based on the railroads of south Jersey, one of which is the Winchester & Western Railroad. Since he needs several W&W locomotives for that part of his layout, forum members Bruce Barrett, (SteamNut), Joe Hueber and I decided we would each model one of the locomotives from the W&W to operate on his layout.

The Winchester & Western Railroad is actually based out of Winchester, Va., but owns and operates on several miles of track here in South Jersey between Bridgeton, Vineland and Millville. It is a nice operation that moves a lot of traffic through the area. They have a nice facility located in Bridgeton, NJ, which includes a well equipped shop where they do all of their own maintenance work. I am fortunate to be long time good friends with two of the employees that work there, and they are gracious enough to allow me to come down now and then and look around and go for a ride. A call one day to one of my friends resulted in an invite to go down on a Saturday where we would be able to photograph, measure, study, etc., all the locomotives there. What a great opportunity!

All of their equipment here on the ‘New Jersey Division’ consists of early EMD units, mostly ex-NKP GP-9’s. However, one locomotive in particular caught my eye as it was just a little different. It was engine #575, a Paducah rebuild. A little research and I knew I had to model this locomotive. It turns out this locomotive is ex-PRR GP-9 #7237. Conrail had it rebuilt by Paducah, re-classified it to a GP-10 and renumbered to #7575. Needless to say, during our day trip there, I took numerous photo’s of this locomotive. As luck would have it, a few weeks later I was down for a cab ride, and guess which engine was on the ready track – engine #575. That sealed the deal!

So here are some shots of #575. Note the Paducah filter box. Also note the low short hood. This was done by the W&W after they acquired her from Conrail. The W&W is making this modification to each of their GP-9’s.





Since Joe Hueber is the guy with no fear, he gets the best shots. While we were on the ground talking, (that’s me in the blue shirt to the right of the engine) Joe climbed up on the roof of the engine and got these shots.



One other unique feature of this particular engine is that it is wired to be a ‘master’ to a ‘slave’. This box supplies power to traction motors in a slave, or ‘slug’. This is different than a standard MU connection as a slave unit has no engine or generator on board. It is simply a low car body with weight and traction motors which get their power from the master. The W&W does not have a slug in NJ, but I understand they have one down in Va. This photo shows the connections for the slave, an easy detail to model.



This should be a fun project. I plan to add sound and working ditch lights to complete the model, something that I don’t normally get to enjoy since I model the late 60’s!
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chrishobbsuk Posted - 04/20/2012 : 09:13:02 AM
I saw the Kaslo shell, then found this thread and decided that doing the same kind of chop job as W&W did themselves made better financial sense.

BTW even though I found most of the missing parts my model of 575 still "almost finished". It got overtaken by my custom Custom Finishes tamper and my Atlas GP38-2 shell upgrades.

Thanks
Chris H
lv4142003 Posted - 01/21/2012 : 8:53:29 PM
Mark,they're not new and if you can find one (yab-E) they're expensive! Hueber
MarkF Posted - 01/21/2012 : 2:41:26 PM
No! Is that new? I wish I had, although building the short hood was a lot of fun!
pcmatt Posted - 01/20/2012 : 11:29:36 PM
Hey Mark-

Did you see these from Kaslo?



LVRALPH Posted - 01/16/2012 : 05:48:01 AM
quote:
Originally posted by MarkF

Gee, thanks Matt. It's close to being done, isn't it? Someday.



Now you sound like me!
dlwrailfan1 Posted - 01/16/2012 : 01:03:17 AM
Missed this thread as did Matt. Great photos and construction thread on a local engine.

Now if we keep posting . . .

MarkF Posted - 01/15/2012 : 9:44:15 PM
Gee, thanks Matt. It's close to being done, isn't it? Someday.
pcmatt Posted - 01/15/2012 : 8:24:45 PM
Mark,

Thanks for showing me the project the other night. Can't believe I missed this thread.

Now you're thinking, [:-censored], it's back on top, it's been OVER a year since I updated it and I haven't really done anything on the layout either, so....[:-banghead]

Anyways, it looked great in person, and really enjoyed reading how you got it to this point. Great pics and documentary. Can't wait till it's done or will we see Steams first? LOL
MarkF Posted - 11/14/2010 : 12:26:02 PM
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Originally posted by jatravia

So yeah Mark, since you brought it up, when are you going to finish that loco? What a slacker!
Joe <><




Well Joe, I did come across it the other day while looking for something else. I stared at it and thought to myself 'geez, it's almost done'. [:-idea] A little here and there, a coat of paint and....

Well, reality set back in. [:-boggled] Who am I kidding! With all I have to do with the layout, unpacking other stuff, etc. It will get done, but not yet.
chrishobbsuk Posted - 11/13/2010 : 10:15:51 PM
Real life is suckishk, I've not got any further with mine, if anything it has gone backwards, I upgraded the chassis to one with QSI sound and some of my carefully crafted mods no longer fit (including the louvres behind the grilles that took so long to sort out). Plus I've put a box with some parts somewhere safe, so safe that I can't find it.

On another note I went to VA in search of the 1:1 scale model. Gore was deserted, the only sign that anyone had been there recently was a couple of shiny new oil drums next to the shed. On the way back we went via Inwood, WV and found three locos (445, 498 and 709) but no sign of either 575 or its relative 572. I guess I'll have to go back :)

Thanks
Chris H

jatravia Posted - 10/27/2010 : 06:53:11 AM
So yeah Mark, since you brought it up, when are you going to finish that loco? What a slacker!

Actually I know the feeling: I haven't seen any of my books or modeling tools since last December when we preped the condo for sale! We can't get the spare room here at the house clear enough to gather up my stuff from my wife's aunt's house. Now mind you that it is only my stuff still sitting there ... [:-banghead]

Joe <><
MarkF Posted - 10/27/2010 : 12:55:07 AM
Wow Barry, did you have to bring this thread up to the top? Now I feel like I might have to dig that model out and finish it! It's still buried in one of the boxes in my basement. I haven't seen it since before I moved. Oh boy, now the local boys here will be on my case to get back to work on this project! [:-banghead]

On a serious note, you may notice that I used the Testor's putty on this model as it was what I had. I haven't experienced any problems with it. I've used Squadron putty as well in the past, but what I noticed at the time was that it dried harder, making it difficult to sand. That is one factor you want to keep in mind.

By the way, nice looking job on the chop nose!
CCT70 Posted - 10/27/2010 : 12:39:05 AM
Hey Karl, this auto body filler, you don't have to mix it right? Just use it straight out of the tube? How easy is it to sand, and what is the dry time? More or less than Squadron? Sorry for all the questions, but it'd be nice to have a better alternative if it is cheaper in the long run and you get more for your money.
k9wrangler Posted - 10/27/2010 : 12:06:32 AM

Go to an auto parts/paint store, Wal-mart, and get a tube of 'spotting putty' 4 times the size of Squadron's tube, color is box car reddish.
CCT70 Posted - 10/26/2010 : 11:38:12 PM
No, no, no. Get some Squadron Green Putty. It's made for models and is really good stuff.

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